Map Thread XXII
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Map Thread IX
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Thank you! I certainly plan to keep going with it, I have plenty of ideas stored up!
I recall that IOTL the Habsburgs only offered part of their Netherlands to the Wittlesbach. However you spell it. Strange they did not end up with all of their land in the east since they gave all of that land to them in the west. I suppose they might have inherited some of it later. Almost surprising Bremen and Hamburg are independent of Saxony here, but i imagine there would be a hell of lot of economic changes if there was no Hanseatic League. Realistically, I suppose these two areas remaining free works out for the Saxon Dukes they can still shake them done for money, and this time simply by blockading the rivers rather than invading the cities. I know the light yellow is just being used for miscenalious states here, but is it that the bishopric of Utrecht has land both inside and outside of the HRE here, or is that light yellow area in the Netherlands just a separate state here? Then again, Gröening and Friesland are a tad different than the Hollanders. Curious to see that Bohemia is given control over Silesia and Moravia here, instead of just being unified with everything els. Though given the difference in stem duchies, perhaps it just consolidated power over the years,. Hopefully it does not seem like nitpicks, because there are actually a few pixels I am very curious about. Those in Bosnia. I look forward to seeing the differences in the Balkans if you ever do that area!Little map of my surviving Stem Duchy of Saxony idea. I know butterflies yada yada. I'm just gonna use ASB in attack mode.
Anyway, other small changes are that Anhalt belongs to Meißen (Basically OTL Saxony), Prussia is beaten in a 7 Year's war like war, the Habsburgs are able to trade their part of the Netherlands with Bavaria, the Netherlands itself is a bit smaller, missing Oversticht, Drenthe and Frisia.
Also France made smaller gains in the east compared to OTL. Especially in the Netherlands and in Alsace.
EDIT: Ahhh right, you mentioned the Netherlands thing in your post.
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Beatriz
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This map is cool because of how it “balances” regions with different powers including the Mughals, the Karnatic League, Mataram vs. Makassar, although far fewer New World states
By the way, has anyone here eaten Makassarese food?
Mexico. Home to a great and vibrant culture, beautiful landscapes, and of course immense sums of: gold, silver, oil, copper, and a healthy quantity of coal too, not to mention a good bit of cropland.
But despite all that, Mexico is also home to 7 out of 10 of the most murderous cities in the world, while millions and millions of citizens have fled to the United States for better opportunities. None of this was inevitable. If history had gone differently, Mexico could have been a great power.
In real life, Mexico was doomed when its War of Independence went sour. The liberal reformists were defeated and the conservative monarchists, led of course by Agustin de Iturbide, won. Mexico's first chapter of independence was then civil war.
If you want Mexico to be rich and powerful, then you need to change how the Mexican War of Independence went. If the army received proper training, like Steuben trained the disorganized Americans, then the Mexican army would’ve had the discipline needed to orderly retreat from Spanish soldiers when they needed, including at the key Battle of Lomas de Santa Maria.
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But if Mexico's liberal reformists won the war, then Mexico would get set on the right track toward success. It could fix the distribution of land, challenge the entrenched power of the aristocracy and church, and develop the industries and infrastructure Mexico needed. Combined with a healthy alliance with Britain, Mexico could then repel America's invasion. Catholic immigrants from Europe swell its population, foreign investment gives it the boost it needs, and if America is divided by the Civil War, then Mexico would be the #1 country of North America.
From there, Mexico annexes DR (the US almost did so in real life), takes Cuba from the dying Spanish Empire, and becomes rich from loans and sales to Britain and France during the World Wars. Entering the Cold War, socialist Mexico is a great power with immense influence across the world. It ultimately triumphs over its rivals, Germany and Japan, and becomes the world's hegemon in the 1990s.
Today, Mexico is atop the world.
It won't last forever, though.
Is there a reason why Belize (A) is Mexican, and (B) isn't part of Yucatan?
Mexico. Home to a great and vibrant culture, beautiful landscapes, and of course immense sums of: gold, silver, oil, copper, and a healthy quantity of coal too, not to mention a good bit of cropland.
But despite all that, Mexico is also home to 7 out of 10 of the most murderous cities in the world, while millions and millions of citizens have fled to the United States for better opportunities. None of this was inevitable. If history had gone differently, Mexico could have been a great power.
In real life, Mexico was doomed when its War of Independence went sour. The liberal reformists were defeated and the conservative monarchists, led of course by Agustin de Iturbide, won. Mexico's first chapter of independence was then civil war.
If you want Mexico to be rich and powerful, then you need to change how the Mexican War of Independence went. If the army received proper training, like Steuben trained the disorganized Americans, then the Mexican army would’ve had the discipline needed to orderly retreat from Spanish soldiers when they needed, including at the key Battle of Lomas de Santa Maria.
I discuss this more here:
But if Mexico's liberal reformists won the war, then Mexico would get set on the right track toward success. It could fix the distribution of land, challenge the entrenched power of the aristocracy and church, and develop the industries and infrastructure Mexico needed. Combined with a healthy alliance with Britain, Mexico could then repel America's invasion. Catholic immigrants from Europe swell its population, foreign investment gives it the boost it needs, and if America is divided by the Civil War, then Mexico would be the #1 country of North America.
From there, Mexico annexes DR (the US almost did so in real life), takes Cuba from the dying Spanish Empire, and becomes rich from loans and sales to Britain and France during the World Wars. Entering the Cold War, socialist Mexico is a great power with immense influence across the world. It ultimately triumphs over its rivals, Germany and Japan, and becomes the world's hegemon in the 1990s.
Today, Mexico is atop the world.
It won't last forever, though.
As far as I know there were two proposals, the later one including all of Habsburg Netherlands.
For Bremen and Hamburg. The Archbishopric of Bremen still became independent for some time in this TL, resulting in the same split of the city from the then independent Archbishopric. Saxony tried to get it back, but honestly it isn't worth it.
Part of that is that the Hanseatic League still formed. But with the rise of Sweden, England and the Dutch (The lands lost in TTL weren't that important), the Saxons and League work closely together. Even establishing a Saxo-Hanseatic East India Company.
Oversticht became free from Utrecht and remained part of the Empire. Meanwhile the Frisians... just doing their own things.
As far as I know the Lands of the Bohemian Crown included Silesia and Moravia. Even Lusatia before it was given to Saxony in OTL.
Not sure if I actually dare to work on the rest outside of the HRE. Not enough maps to take borders from, not enough trust to draw my own original borders and absolute no original thought on how to progress after the actual POD.
Good q. Belize left the British Empire after WW2, suffered from domestic strife, and eventually through push (pro-Mexican factions) and pull (Mexican astroturfing, economic dominance, and security presence) factors decided to join Mexico during the Cold War.
Belize isn't part of Yucatan as a condition of their entrance into the Mexican federation.
This would make more sense with 26 counties in the Republic of Ireland + 6 counties in Eritrea, thus adding to the 32 counties of a united Ireland. This way you have 38 counties, which is just too many.
quick shitpost idea i had
Ireland isn't partitioned in this timeline, thus it is 32 counties, but I get what you mean.
If the joke is that the 6 counties of Eritrea make a united Ireland then why have an unpartitioned Ireland? I get it’s a shitpost but just conceptually speaking lmao
And instead of Eritrea, you could have the six states that comprise New England given that Irish is the most reported ethnicity there...
Oh dear, considering their population, the Irish would definitely be underrepresented than the New Englanders. That's a funny idea, New Englander colony of Ireland.
Because it's a pro-colony poster, arguing that Ireland's sole colony in the timeline is now a core part of Ireland. It's like how French would say "Algeria is France" in the 60s.
Why did the Ottoman Empire annex eastern Bulgaria? Why did the British lose Kuwait and Qatar while gaining the southern tip of Palestine?
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Everyone will probably be somewhat happy with this. Except for Bulgaria.